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Foreigner (Quintaglio Ascension, #3)
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
Foreigner (Quintaglio Ascension, #3)
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
Foreigner (Quintaglio Ascension, #3)
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
Foreigner (Quintaglio Ascension, #3)
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
by Robert J. Sawyer
On the third outing into the world of sentient dinosaurs called Quintaglios the story fails to charm in the way the first book did or even the second book. Having introduced Quintaglio equivalents of Galileo and Darwin, Sawyer brings in a Freud-like figure and spends much of the book on Popeye’s psychology.
After telling us in book one that eyes don’t grow back (limbs and tails do), Afsan’s eyes do grow back but he can’t see. He enters into psychotherapy with the premise that it is now hysterical blindness. Way too much of the book is spent on Afsan’s dreams and the interpretation of them in psychotherapy…chapters and chapters of it.
On the discovery front, Toroca and crew find new land and it is inhabited by creatures very similar to the Quintaglios but different enough to be labeled as “Others”. Meanwhile, Novato continues to study the alien ship - she unravels the mysteries of the alien ship in record time. Toroca befriends and learns the language of the Others despite a rocky start (two of them murder by the Quintaglios). Unfortunately, he is the only one who can stand the site of them and when they come to visit the ship, the other Quintaglios rip them to pieces (there is much of this in all three books, the Quintaglios are very territorial and can fly into a murderous rage easily…never mind that it just wouldn’t work to have cities like they do.) They flee to avoid war, but Toroca has a clutch of three of them that he rescued from the body of one of those killed.
The next part stuck with me for many years after reading this book as making no sense at all. He eats two of the hatchlings after convincing himself that making an exception for them would be disastrous (in the previous book their was an uprising when it was discovered that the royal Family wasn’t subject to the Blood Priest’s culling). Later it is determined that witnessing this event is a traumatic event that leads to their hyper aggressiveness. That’s what all the psychotherapy story line is about. Toroca is considered a freak because he doesn’t go into a rage ever. Since his clutch was spared, supposedly that explains it. But he eats two of the Other hatchling but in the end of the book, the third is grown and is also without the territorial aggression. Their first explanation of genetic origins made much more sense than the whole traumatic event nonsense. (Note: he does claim they are younger than when the culling is usually done and I suppose I have to take back the inconsistency complaint).
Toroca eventually recommends that culling be changed to random destruction of eggs.
The story ends with the Quintaglio (including the Others which they finally make peace with) leaving their world to colonize others and one ship heading to Earth. Maybe Robert Sawyer intended to follow-up on that but as far as I know he never did.
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